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let's begin this hour with nbc justice correspondent pete williams and former cia counterterrorism director larry johnson. two best guests we could have. pete, let's go back to that picture we just saw from whdh up there, boston affiliate of nbc. what are the experts making of the fact that it was there, that bag, whatever it is sitting there before the explosion and then in this picture taken afterwards you can see the smoke trailing up to the left there diagonally? what does that tell us? >> it tells us it's something they're investigating, chris. they know, they believe very strongly that the bombs were brought to the scene in backpacks. but i think it's fair to say they're looking at whether after they got there, they put them in these shopping bags. now, that thing next to the -- to the bag that's just on the edge of the little spot shot circle there, that is a trash receptacle. could it be? it's a question. could it be the devices were placed in these trash bags next to trash receptacles to look inconspicuous? it's something that they're -- that they're studying and something that is
let's begin this hour with nbc justice correspondent pete williams and former cia counterterrorism director larry johnson. two best guests we could have. pete, let's go back to that picture we just saw from whdh up there, boston affiliate of nbc. what are the experts making of the fact that it was there, that bag, whatever it is sitting there before the explosion and then in this picture taken afterwards you can see the smoke trailing up to the left there diagonally? what does that tell us?...
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we have a note for pete williams. two sources tell nbc news that two people have video of a person placing a black bag down. one confirm authorities have video of several individuals including this one person who they are interested in questioning. these have been described to nbc has solid leads. looking for him to question. this is what we are getting at nbc news from law enforcement officials. not about an arrest. not about an identified suspect per say. but that they have leads based on the video surveillance cameras that they have had access to. >> we know this. a security camera is the camera which has captured much of the video that law enforcement officials are using in their investigation. that is from google maps and that is the camera on the corner of the lord and taylor. nbc news investigative producer on this. bob, maybe you can answer a fundamental question from our viewers. >>> it is the hallmark of this investigation. and he is said to one of the things that we have to be assured of is that we are gett
we have a note for pete williams. two sources tell nbc news that two people have video of a person placing a black bag down. one confirm authorities have video of several individuals including this one person who they are interested in questioning. these have been described to nbc has solid leads. looking for him to question. this is what we are getting at nbc news from law enforcement officials. not about an arrest. not about an identified suspect per say. but that they have leads based on the...
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pete williams and chuck todd join us next. you're watching "morning joe" live from boston. >>> on days like this, there are no republicans and democrats, we are americans united in concern for our fellow citizens. i've also spoken with governor patrick and made it clear they have every federal resource necessary to care for the victims and counsel the families. and above all, i made clear to them that all americans stand with the people of boston. >> clear the set. >> that was president obama yesterday, and as you see in washington, d.c. on capitol hill, flags are at half staff this morning. joining us now from washington, nbc chief news white house correspondent and political director and host of the "daily rundown" chuck todd. and pete williams with the latest on the investigation. pete, we'll start with you. bring us up to date. >> okay, mika. one of the confusing things about what's going on here is how many devices were there. now, obviously we know there were two. the two that went off. but we've been hearing for all of
pete williams and chuck todd join us next. you're watching "morning joe" live from boston. >>> on days like this, there are no republicans and democrats, we are americans united in concern for our fellow citizens. i've also spoken with governor patrick and made it clear they have every federal resource necessary to care for the victims and counsel the families. and above all, i made clear to them that all americans stand with the people of boston. >> clear the set....
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the latest we have out here, pete williams, nbc news. haes be he has been right on this one all along. the investigators believe they know where suspect number two is hold up here in watertown. police helicopter flying over the city. now, it is just frozen in the air. it is stationary i would guess maybe a mile from where i'm standing here with all the gathered media from around the world. police keeping us in this spot. no one being allowed to go into watertown. the entire mass transit system in boston is shout down. they did not want suspect number two to escape. suspect number one was shot and killed overnight. there is a report that he had explosives strapped to him. they had certainly thrown explosives at officers as they chased that mercedes suv that they had car jacked. the concern is that suspect number two may have explosives strapped to him, sefrcertainly available to him. knowing where he is is one thing. figuring out how to get him out without someone else in the neighborhood or area being injured or killed would be another.
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this is just coming from pete williams of nbc news. last night, police in watertown, massachusetts, got into a shootout with both suspects. they ever both brothers from chechnya. you might recall the surveillance photos. the one in the black cap, 26-year-old sam german tsarnaev, ted not only of a gunshot wounds but shrapnel wounds and thermal wounds indicating he might have been hurt by an explosive device. the brothers did reportedly throw at least one bomb during a shootout with police. the suspect in the white cap, he is 19-year-old dzhokhar tsarnaev. he is the one that we are still looking for. he told the "associated press" that he was an angel. police ask asked you to shelter in place and not open the door unless it is police. we will have more updates in two minutes. hey! did you know that honey nut cheerios has oats that can help lower cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! ♪ wow. [ buzz ] delicious, right? yeah. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... ♪ well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? bee happy. b
this is just coming from pete williams of nbc news. last night, police in watertown, massachusetts, got into a shootout with both suspects. they ever both brothers from chechnya. you might recall the surveillance photos. the one in the black cap, 26-year-old sam german tsarnaev, ted not only of a gunshot wounds but shrapnel wounds and thermal wounds indicating he might have been hurt by an explosive device. the brothers did reportedly throw at least one bomb during a shootout with police. the...
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right now, we don't have any reports, as you've been hearing from pete williams. if they want it question somebody or know who that exact person is. but if they do get somebody, suspicion is they will be brought to the courthouse. >> nbc news expert michael leiter also been reporting on this. why all of the conflicting information? >> frankly, we have a lot of reporters running stories that aren't perfectly sourced. everyone is trying to beat someone to the gun rather than necessarily getting things right. and there is inherent confusion in government especially when have you multiple agencies working this. people get called and they aren't really involved in what is going on but they feel like they have to prove their worth and they are saying things that they don't know. so people are trying it make a names for themselves on the inside. people are trying to make a name for themselves on the outside. unfortunately you end up taking time away from investigators trying to do the work. >> let's get back to the investigation. we know there will be an fbi press confer
right now, we don't have any reports, as you've been hearing from pete williams. if they want it question somebody or know who that exact person is. but if they do get somebody, suspicion is they will be brought to the courthouse. >> nbc news expert michael leiter also been reporting on this. why all of the conflicting information? >> frankly, we have a lot of reporters running stories that aren't perfectly sourced. everyone is trying to beat someone to the gun rather than...
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>> pete williams is reporting that they have made this arrest of suspect.story? >> pete williams is reporting that they have made this arrest of suspect. they may have him in court later. we believe he's from tupelo, mississippi. we're not sure on his name. but pete williams reporting that story and of course cnbc will have all the details for you on that 8:00 p.m. news conference as well as this late breaking development in the ricin letters. >> thanks very much. now, president obama's gun control agenda was dealt devastating blow today. 54 senators including five democrats voted to defeat a proposal to expand background checks. >> a main setback for those in favor of heightening the rules. expanding gun background checks failed to win over the senate. it was a plan put together by senator joe manchin and pat toomey. it needed 60 votes to move ahead and it got only 54. president obama briefed the press shortly after the vote. he repeated the importance of gun control and expressed his own frustration. he even said the gun lobby willfully lied about the bil
>> pete williams is reporting that they have made this arrest of suspect.story? >> pete williams is reporting that they have made this arrest of suspect. they may have him in court later. we believe he's from tupelo, mississippi. we're not sure on his name. but pete williams reporting that story and of course cnbc will have all the details for you on that 8:00 p.m. news conference as well as this late breaking development in the ricin letters. >> thanks very much. now,...
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williams. pete, i'd like to go to you first, given what the president just said coming out and saying it is an act of terror does not come as much of a surprise, given the contours of this. but still something worth remarking on in terms of how the white house is handling this event. >> perhaps so. but this is a case of you know, do as i say, not as i do. or perhaps actions speak louder than words, is what i meant. the very fact that it was announced last night that the fbi was taking the lead in this investigation answered the question. because the fbi has jurisdiction in a case like this only if it's considered an act of terrorism. we crossed that bridge last night. with the words were used or not. in terms of the investigation, let's just clear up a couple of points that were confusing overnight. just two devices, there was a suggestion there were others because so many packages had to be destroyed. there was mixed information about whether any of them campaigned explosives, they did not. sp
williams. pete, i'd like to go to you first, given what the president just said coming out and saying it is an act of terror does not come as much of a surprise, given the contours of this. but still something worth remarking on in terms of how the white house is handling this event. >> perhaps so. but this is a case of you know, do as i say, not as i do. or perhaps actions speak louder than words, is what i meant. the very fact that it was announced last night that the fbi was taking the...
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the prior -- conversation with pete williams was especially interesting. here's a little more of what we know. pete reported on part of this earlier. the 7-eleven robbery takes place a few blocks on the north street and cambridge where the two brothers lived. robbed the 7-eleven. they then shoot the m.i.t. campus police officer, who is in his car. the reasoning we're told is he, they probably thought that the police officer recognized them from their photographs being published everywhere and up on the tv screens everywhere and hours earlier by the fbi in the afternoon. they carjack an individual who is driving a mercedes suv. authorities know who the individual is. the news media know who the individual is. we know his name. we're not going to report his name, obviously. he has been fully debriefed. and is really part of a really interesting equation to this whole awful, awful story. in that they hijacked the car. they take his credit card. and they make three different attempts with his credit card to withdraw money from atm machines. the first one faile
the prior -- conversation with pete williams was especially interesting. here's a little more of what we know. pete reported on part of this earlier. the 7-eleven robbery takes place a few blocks on the north street and cambridge where the two brothers lived. robbed the 7-eleven. they then shoot the m.i.t. campus police officer, who is in his car. the reasoning we're told is he, they probably thought that the police officer recognized them from their photographs being published everywhere and...
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brian. >> all right, pete williams in our washington newsroom. we'll be looking for further details from there. pete, thanks. >>> michael lighter is our national security analyst at nbc news. he's the former director of the national counterterrorism center in washington. michael, two things. to overseas veterans of our dual wars these past ten years and those of us who have spent time over there, number one the primary explosion and then the secondary explosion as people are running to the first and, number two, the nature of these injuries. an explosive device apparently with added shrapnel and that kind of haunts everybody involved. >> yes, brian. the idea of using two explosive devices, the first charge which attracts to some extent the first responders, the police, fire, medical and then to have a second charge go off that is potentially targeting those responders. it's potentially the sign of a more sophisticated attack. and as you noted, the shrapnel, the idea that there could have been ball bearings or something else in these explosives cl
brian. >> all right, pete williams in our washington newsroom. we'll be looking for further details from there. pete, thanks. >>> michael lighter is our national security analyst at nbc news. he's the former director of the national counterterrorism center in washington. michael, two things. to overseas veterans of our dual wars these past ten years and those of us who have spent time over there, number one the primary explosion and then the secondary explosion as people are...
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let's bring in pete williams who has been watching this as well. what are you hearing? pete williams has been watching this story for us. we have michael with us as well since overnight. michael, early on today about seven hours ago, you reported the first suspect that was confirmed dead. what are you hearing at the moment from your sources? >> at the moment, we are all waiting on the results to see if they have the primary suspect surrounded. if they are going to take him into custody and then the alleged accomplice on the connecticut police who took the amtrak train in connecticut. a couple of things. we are still standing behind the principal staging area where we had convoys and military vehicles and trucks and buses and motorcycles as though they were planning for a confrontation of some kind. the intensity of the activity seems to have awaited. we suggest that the reports of the cordoned off area may be real and that's where the principal confrontation will be taking place. the thing to remember is the ied that was found in the city of charlestown was the real rea
let's bring in pete williams who has been watching this as well. what are you hearing? pete williams has been watching this story for us. we have michael with us as well since overnight. michael, early on today about seven hours ago, you reported the first suspect that was confirmed dead. what are you hearing at the moment from your sources? >> at the moment, we are all waiting on the results to see if they have the primary suspect surrounded. if they are going to take him into custody...
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williams. >> this is coming from pete williams at nbc news, that they have been -- he's been told that the brothers came with their families to the united states in either 2002 or 2003. one of them, 26, born in russia. became a permanent resident in 2007. the other has a massachusetts driver's license and is a resident of cambridge. >> one was how old? >> one is 26. the and the other perhaps is 19. but unclear. unclear. >> the birth date we had on the massachusetts driver's license would make him 19, 19 1/2 to be more specific. yeah. july 1993. so that's interesting new information. because it was earlier information they were only a year or so apart. there was some question about how long they had been in the country. earlier reports from pete williams were that it was at least a year. and now we know if that report is correct that the family had been in the country 10 years. >> scott, thank you very much. we'll check back with you in just a little bit. >> matt: meantime, we have ambassador woolsy on the line. mr. am bass dorks you have heard everything that's been happening here. wha
williams. >> this is coming from pete williams at nbc news, that they have been -- he's been told that the brothers came with their families to the united states in either 2002 or 2003. one of them, 26, born in russia. became a permanent resident in 2007. the other has a massachusetts driver's license and is a resident of cambridge. >> one was how old? >> one is 26. the and the other perhaps is 19. but unclear. unclear. >> the birth date we had on the massachusetts...
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nbc news' pete williams points out that one of the pressure cooker lids ended up on the roof of a nearby building because the force of the explosion was so great. this photo shows bbs and a nail believed to be part of the shrapnel in one of the bombs along what could be the zipper from one of those black backpacks or nylon bags authorities have mentioned. investigators know the type of batteries use and michael isikoff reports they were in a battery pack made by a company in california used to power toy cars and often for sale in hobby shops. officials have opened up more of the area around the crime scene, focusing their investigation primarily on those two explosion points and the stretch of boylston street. i'm joined now by massachusetts governor deval patrick. thank you for joining me. >> thank you, lawrence. >> i'd like you to tell the story about how you found out about these explosions. i heard you explain this on a local interview. >> i had been out at the finish line crowning the men's and women's winners earlier in the day and i had finished up, i don't know, 1:00 or so -- >>
nbc news' pete williams points out that one of the pressure cooker lids ended up on the roof of a nearby building because the force of the explosion was so great. this photo shows bbs and a nail believed to be part of the shrapnel in one of the bombs along what could be the zipper from one of those black backpacks or nylon bags authorities have mentioned. investigators know the type of batteries use and michael isikoff reports they were in a battery pack made by a company in california used to...
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nbc news pete williams reported that the bombs were triggered by a timer as opposed to a remote detonator. we learned this type of bomb is frequently used in afghanistan and iraq, but also recently popped up in the u.s. one of the devices used in the times square attempted bombing was apparently a pressure cooker. now, we are hearing about a press conference at the top of the hour. we'll carry it live for you on nbc 4 and nbcwashington.com. >>> all right, thank you, aaron. >>> and we're finding out more about the victims killed as the identities were revealed. three died yesterday, we now know two names, 29-year-old krystle campbell is one just confirmed to nbc news by her father this afternoon. she was a restaurant manager from medford massachusetts. this other guy, 8 years old, killed while they stood by the finish line. neighbors are haunted by this traged tragedy. >> to know he will never come home, it kept me up. >> martin released a statement, saying the wife and daughter suffered injuries, he asked others to pray for his family. stay with us for continuing coverage, and coming up a
nbc news pete williams reported that the bombs were triggered by a timer as opposed to a remote detonator. we learned this type of bomb is frequently used in afghanistan and iraq, but also recently popped up in the u.s. one of the devices used in the times square attempted bombing was apparently a pressure cooker. now, we are hearing about a press conference at the top of the hour. we'll carry it live for you on nbc 4 and nbcwashington.com. >>> all right, thank you, aaron. >>>...
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it is coming from nbc pete williams. a senior law enforcement official says it appears there were two unbloweded devices. just two that went off. police are studying surveillance to see if they can see anybody with packages where the bombs went off. there is a video of someone carrying two backpacks but it is too early to know whether that was related to the attack. >> social media played a huge role in the last 24 hours. the aftermath of the bombings at the boston marathon. boston police confirmed the explosions in a tweet at 3:39 p.m. eastern time and provided updates and subsequent tweets throughout the afternoon and into the evening. i'm not sure this had been done before. witnesses sent updates as people around the country followed the attack. and foursquare was actually running in the marathon, the ceo. i'm okay. about 20k of us in coral just before mile 26 marker. the hashtag spiked after the attack. and google set up what's called a person finder page for the marathon sphoeexplosions. it was used in a couple othe
it is coming from nbc pete williams. a senior law enforcement official says it appears there were two unbloweded devices. just two that went off. police are studying surveillance to see if they can see anybody with packages where the bombs went off. there is a video of someone carrying two backpacks but it is too early to know whether that was related to the attack. >> social media played a huge role in the last 24 hours. the aftermath of the bombings at the boston marathon. boston police...
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what do you make of the news reported by our own pete williams? that the older brother, tamerlan, had a bomb strapped to him when he died? because we had two bombs at the marathon. we had a bomb tossed from a vehicle yesterday evening. we had a bomb strapped to this individual. i'm assuming that law enforcement believes that these two individuals have been working pretty hard at developing a series of these devices. ieds and so on. >> clearly, martin, it's a bombing campaign. i think -- >> it really is. >> that's what it was. i think if you listen to richard engel and roger cressey, they're giving you the great insight into the minds and the transformation process to become a suicide bomber. and no matter what speculation, what information we don't have, the information we do have is suicide bombers. they have -- at least one had it strapped on their chest and another one. that's an incredible transformation, even a bomber, to be a suicide bomber. that was a major change. law enforcement killed him. now we may have a suicide bomber, you know, on t
what do you make of the news reported by our own pete williams? that the older brother, tamerlan, had a bomb strapped to him when he died? because we had two bombs at the marathon. we had a bomb tossed from a vehicle yesterday evening. we had a bomb strapped to this individual. i'm assuming that law enforcement believes that these two individuals have been working pretty hard at developing a series of these devices. ieds and so on. >> clearly, martin, it's a bombing campaign. i think --...
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three reasons, according to pete williams. one, we don't know where the second bomber is. two, this notion of other explosives in boston that one apparently found and no longer a threat and three, this worry about other accomplices is something you highlighted almost an hour ago. >> i think the other of other accomplices is something everyone was focusing on. we had the footage of two individuals and it is very unlikely that these two individuals did this with no other individuals having knowledge of it and whether there were other co-conspirators that were part of the plot and were supposed to be involved with helping these guys get away, whether they secured materials for the plot and this is what intelligence analysts are doing right now backed in their headquarters. they're using very cutting edge technological tools to mine any of the data that they are able to pull from the first suspect who was killed early this morning. so his travel records, phone records, anything that they could look at, social security number to figure out who might be in the ever-expanding cir
three reasons, according to pete williams. one, we don't know where the second bomber is. two, this notion of other explosives in boston that one apparently found and no longer a threat and three, this worry about other accomplices is something you highlighted almost an hour ago. >> i think the other of other accomplices is something everyone was focusing on. we had the footage of two individuals and it is very unlikely that these two individuals did this with no other individuals having...
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>> pete williams, i have to tell you, i don't think there's anyone smarter than pete williams. when he speaks, you know how you feel like you get a clear, measured picture. i just really like him. there were a lot of people releasing photos this morning of a couple of people that, that they thought the cops were looking at or looking for. >> or acted suspiciously right before the bomb, the second bomb went off. a picture of two men. >> yeah. >> that has not been, that has been discounted now, right? >> he just says they have some people that they're looking at, they're not the two that maybe some of you have seen in the newspapers. we're waiting to find out if in fact there is someone identified in one of the photos that the fbi or the police have. >> what's your gut feeling on this, hoda? >> i don't know. when something is international, usually you hear someone beating their chest saying, we did it. >> we're not supposed to say take credit for it. but in their mind, take responsibility for that. >> the best of human nature always comes out in these horrible situations. last n
>> pete williams, i have to tell you, i don't think there's anyone smarter than pete williams. when he speaks, you know how you feel like you get a clear, measured picture. i just really like him. there were a lot of people releasing photos this morning of a couple of people that, that they thought the cops were looking at or looking for. >> or acted suspiciously right before the bomb, the second bomb went off. a picture of two men. >> yeah. >> that has not been, that...
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. >> bringing in pete williams into the discussion. i want to start with the images, the first one lester showed u. us, the immediate aftermath, from across the street, looking down. you will see a man in black, his clothing has been shredded, running from the scene. are investigators looking at that? this is not the one okay, here is the one we are talking about. our invest gators looking at him running to or away from terror? >> i would say running away. with a window over the finish line, we saw this man. can you see the impact of the blast partially ripped his clothes away. now, the same thing was said about this exchange student. we are not sure -- it could be the exchange student, they are not sure. if any event, the fbi no longer considers him, they think he was just a victim. >> and the mail box, there is a package, a bag at the foot of that mail box, we zoom in on that one. and the immediately aftermath of the explosion. it looks like it took place almost exactly in that spot. what you are hearing from invest gators from this?
. >> bringing in pete williams into the discussion. i want to start with the images, the first one lester showed u. us, the immediate aftermath, from across the street, looking down. you will see a man in black, his clothing has been shredded, running from the scene. are investigators looking at that? this is not the one okay, here is the one we are talking about. our invest gators looking at him running to or away from terror? >> i would say running away. with a window over the...